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09 March 2005 @ 12:37 pm
Someme Memes Rememebered  
Six comfort foods (from tnatj):

1) Grilled cheese sandwiches with bacon, tomato soup. The sandwiches have to be cooked under the broiler, not flat-fried in a pan. The bacon is cooked on top of the cheese in the sandwiches, the broiler keeps things from staying too greasy. Reminds me of snowy winter days and cold winds while I sit cozy in the house.

2) Tea. Yorkshire. With milk. Ahhhhhhhhhh.

3) Orange sherbet and lemon sandwich cookies. Sitting at my grandparents' house watching them play Scrabble (and later playing it with them).

4) Cottage cheese. With pineapple.

5) Coca-cola in a chilled 6-oz bottle. Nothing else tastes the same.

6) Crunchy Peanut Butter on buttered soft white bread. Sitting in my other grandparents' kitchen after coming in from the barnyard.

For those of you surprised that I didn't mention beer - while it is in many ways my beverage of choice (*grin*), it really isn't something I find myself craving when feelin stressed out, down at heel, or nostalgic.

"Concierge" meme. From various people, originating with zencuppa. Modified to be more the ones who set original examples for me more than those who changed something in mid-stream:

1)Books: Nancy Lyon Sutton Kaminski (my mother). Bookshelves and bookshelves full of everything from classics (Silas Marner) to non-fiction (Religions Of the World) to SF/Fantasy (far too many to name but almost all available Heinlein, Asimov, McCaffrey, Bradbury, and more). We didn't always agree on what we liked (she loved Dune, I rather deprecate it. I love 1984, she felt it too bombastic and over the top) but we could always discuss it. She was not just my mother, she was my English teacher for one brief 6-week course on SF Novels in High School. She showed me from the earliest moments I can remember that it was OK to read for pleasure, and that's what we spent most evenings doing in my family. She handed me books to read when the library ran out. She handed me books to read that she thought I should read. She handed me books to read that she thought I would like. Enabler for a bookaholic, yes, indeed.

2) People & family: Louis Sidney Lyon (my grandfather). I still miss him so much. I want to tell him just how much of an example he set for me and what a high standard I want to meet, all because of what he meant to me when I was growing up. He never met a stranger - watching him meet people on trains and in stores and have their life stories within 5 minutes was fascinating and instructive. He taught me how to appreciate people all over the world - it's not just places and piles of brick or stone, it's the way people live and work that matters. He took me on my first international trip, and when I took of for an afternoon on my own in London was not mad at me for being gone so long so much as he was mad at me for not taking him with me.

3) Religion: L. Dorian was the senior 3rd degree (later High Priest) who taught me what it meant to be a male in a very female-oriented religion.

4) Being a Good Guy: Elliott James Westbrook (my grandson). I always thought of myself as a fairly unpleasant step-father, and was pretty sure that I'd managed to screw things up pretty royally. But I gotta tell ya that being a grandpa is the best gig in the world. I get a whole new chance and I don't have to be the bad guy or any of those other things. And I love getting that smile when I come in the room.
Current Mood: apatheticapathetic
stevieanniestevieannie on March 9th, 2005 07:34 pm (UTC)
Eleanor Margaret Walker backs up Elliott on the "Great Grandpa" stakes. She still goes "Hmmmm!" and looks round for you. The rest of us are merely pale shadows of your Grandpa-y goodness...
mrlogic on March 9th, 2005 07:34 pm (UTC)
it really isn't something I find myself craving when feelin stressed out, down at heel, or nostalgic.

Is that what people mean by "comfort foods"? It's the best definition I've come across. I've never really understood this concept. I virtually never eat as a response to negative emotional stimuli, so there aren't foods I associate with this.
Bill Suttonbedlamhouse on March 10th, 2005 02:13 am (UTC)
Well, "nostalgic" isn't a negative emotional stimulus, I hope.

I think of comfort foods as being foods you eat that make you feel cozy and secure. People tend to seek them out when they need to get back to that state, but it would probably also be appropriate to list any favorite dish that you associate particular good memories with as a "comfort food".
mrlogic on March 10th, 2005 08:54 am (UTC)
I don't really associate memories or states of being with food. I guess I'm weird, because most people seem to. There are foods I like, but they don't have emotional connotations.
Bill Suttonbedlamhouse on March 10th, 2005 03:34 pm (UTC)
That's very interesting to hear. Studies show that smell (which is very closely linked to taste) is the sense most likely to associate with memories.

Are there "comfort aromas" in your life? I would think that if you don't associate tastes with memories you might not associate aromas either.
mrlogic on March 10th, 2005 04:15 pm (UTC)
There are smells that evoke memories for me, but again not really with emotional connotations.
Bill Suttonbedlamhouse on March 10th, 2005 04:41 pm (UTC)
So the emotional connection is the differentiator for you. Interesting.

At risk of having this go into the gutter as a badly done analysis session, it would seem that you either have some subjectively lower number of overall emotionally connected memories or some subjectively lower number of memories associated with sensory input, because one would expect that the average of emotionally connected memories would be about the same whether sensory conncected or not. Or perhaps that the level of emotional connection that you would associate with comfort is higher than others, so that the emotional connection might be there but not at a discernably distinct level or type.

You don't need to answer, as this is much better suited to a con-suite type conversation where everyone is face-to-face and less likely to make bad assumptions or give unintended offense. It's just fascinating to me to try to understand how other people emotionally connect to things, as it makes it easier for me to understand how to work with them.
mrlogic on March 10th, 2005 04:49 pm (UTC)
Could be any of the above; I don't know. Seems like it might most likely be the last possibility. No offense taken.
Debbie's Blatheringsohiblather on March 9th, 2005 10:06 pm (UTC)
Oh drool. I *so* want to go on a comfort food binge with you someday.
Bill Suttonbedlamhouse on March 10th, 2005 02:15 am (UTC)
Sounds like an excellent "day after the con" post-GAFilk event to me. We should plan it.
Debbie's Blatheringsohiblather on March 10th, 2005 12:30 pm (UTC)
Ok, I'm in. :-)